Showing posts with label Foy. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Foy. Show all posts

Friday, April 29, 2016

X Chromosone

I am very new to using DNA in Genealogy and don't yet understand it.  However, from my naive perspective, my mother's DNA revealed some potentially interesting things.  Providing me me with questions than answers.

The ethnicity results (as per pictures below) show a diverse mixture of backgrounds.

Source:  Ancestry DNA


The thing that stood out to me initially was the 4% African and 2 % Asian as none of my research shows African or Asian descent.

One of the brick-walls in my mothers family is Samuel Drayton, who is listed on many certificates as being born in Philadelphia, United States.  Therefore I wonder if he was of African origin?
If Samuel Drayton was 50% African then
his daughter would be 25% African
his granddaughter would be 12.5% African
his great granddaughter would be 6.25% African
his great great granddaughter (my mother) would be 3.12% African.
The African portion in the DNA results is 4% so this works!
Now I need to prove it!  I hope that I can link to another family member in America from the same family!

Another brick-wall is the Foy family, which is the only Irish family in my mothers ancestry.  Richard Foy was born in Galway according to his marriage certificate.  The name "Foy" does sound Asian so maybe the Asian showing in the DNA is from  Richard's grandparents?

And then recently, I completed a chart showing places of birth, which has totally confused me and made me wonder if there was some hanky panky at some stage?

In the chart, the dark green (at the top of the chart) represents the Irish ancestry.  It is very likely that the parents are also of Irish origin but this has not been positively verified.  The Irish percentage of my ancestry is a very low percentage according to the chart.  However the ethnicity chart above indicates that my mother is 34% Irish!

I don't know enough about the DNA testing to know exactly how the percentages are calculated.  My Christmas present to myself will likely be a more comprehensive DNA test, which tells me additional details.

DNA testing has not yielded any additional details to date, but has instead given me more questions than answers!




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Sunday, January 26, 2014

Australia Day Challenge 2014

Climbing my Family's Gum Tree


The surnames of my ancestors who first set foot on Australian soil (my boat people)

I have not completed any family history research or blogs for over two months but thank you to Pauleen from Family History Across the Seas for proposing this Australia Day Challenge and prompting my return.

My first ancestor to arrive in Australia was:
Samuel Mottram, who arrived at VanDiemans Land (Tasmania) on 8th August 1838,  aboard the convict boat,  Lord Lyndoch.  He was 38 years old.  It is uncertain if he was accompanied by his young wife Catherine and daughter Margaret or if they followed him soon after.
Samuel was not a convict.  He was a soldier in the British Army who was escorting 330 convicts to Australia.  

I have Australian Royalty (tell us who, how many and which Fleet they arrived with)
I thought for a while that my elusive Elias Jones was a convict.  However, I was disappointed after researching three convicts name Elias Jones to find that none of them were my ancestor. So no, I do not have any Australian Royalty.

Alexander Walker was 5 when he arrived
in Geelong, on the James Brown,
 with his family on 5th January 1853.
A brother died on the journey.
I’m an Aussie mongrel, my ancestors came to Oz from:
Twenty from England, Six from Ireland, Five from Prussia, One from Wales (the elusive Elias Jones) and another elusive ancestor, Samuel Drayton, from United States.

Did any of your ancestors arrive under their own financial steam?
Fourteen were "Assisted passengers",  nine were "Unassisted passengers", a further nine are unknown with three of those appearing to swim!.  Two ancestors were working on boats (a convict boat and a whaling boat) and decided to remain in Australia.

How many ancestors came as singles?
I admire the bravery of all those who made the long and dangerous voyage to Australia.  Six of my male ancestors came out as singles.

How many came as couples?
There were only two couples (husband and wife). 

Edith Bound was age 8 and Amelia (Milly) Bound was 20, when they arrived in Port Adelaide, with their widowed mother and 7 siblings, aboard the Oaklands.  They were the last of my "boat people" to arrive on 21 September 1878

How many came as family groups?
The majority arrived as a family group.  Nine family groups made the voyage to Australia with five ancestors being younger than 10 years of age (the youngest being age two).  At age 22, Margaret Gully and her sister Ellen were very brave to make the journey to Australia from Ireland.  It must have been very difficult for my GGG Grandmother, Amelia "Jane" Bound (nee Congdon), who had recently been made a widow, to make the journey with 9 children, the youngest being 10 months old.

James Pilgrim was 22 when he
arrived in Melbourne
10th October 1858
aboard the Lady Milton
Did one person lead the way and others follow?
Yes, I immediately think of my GG Grandfather, James Pilgrim, who followed his older brother John to Australia and was soon followed by his younger sister Emma and her husband, with a further three siblings remaining in Essex.
What’s the longest journey they took to get here?
Over 3 years! Samuel Drayton boarded the whaling boat Sophia in Nantucket on the 15th June 1848. He was one of 25 crew. It is known that the schooner stopped at Pacific islands to offload barrels of sperm whale oil, arriving at Port Jackson, NSW,  on 28th October 1851.  I am hoping to get a copy of a log book detailing the voyage.  Fingers Crossed!
Did anyone make a two-step emigration via another place?
I believe that two of my unknown boat people may have left UK and spent time in USA and NZ respectively, before coming to Australia, which is why I cannot confirm their arrival details.

I would love to find out how and 
when Richard Foy came to 
Australia.  
I believe that he arrived in QLD 
in the 1870s but the records
 have been destroyed
 by flood so I cannot prove.
Which state(s)/colony did your ancestors arrive?  Did they settle and remain in one 
state/colony? Did they stay in one town or move around?
13 Victoria,  12 South Australia, 2 Tasmania and one in NSW.  I also believe that one ancestor arrived in Queensland prior to making his way to Victoria.  However, I cannot prove it, as the relevant QLD immigration records were destroyed in floods. 
Samuel Mottram, who was mentioned previously, arrived in Tasmania.  After two years, he went to WA, where the family stayed for 22 years before following their son to the Victorian goldfields. However many of the other children remained in WA.
Most of my boat people ancestors made their way to Victoria with a few remaining in SA.

Do you have any First Australians in your tree?
We may have aboriginal blood in one "branch" of the tree but it will need a DNA test to prove it.  On a different perspective, I am married to a "First Australian".  My husband's mother was born in Germany and his father in Romania whilst my husband was the "first" of his line to be born in Australia.  (I haven't done much work on his family tree).

Were any self-employed?
Yes, I have many farmers in my ancestry. 

What occupations or industries did your earliest ancestors work in?
I have previously written about the occupations in my family history.  Those who arrived in Australia, were primarily farmers or miners.


My father was the first white collar worker in the family, while I was the first to go to university (advanced diploma) with my daughter the first to obtain a degree.

Does anyone in the family still follow that occupation?
James Pilgrim purchased farm land in 1882, which is now operated by his Great Grandson.   There are many properties in the area, which are owned by various members of the Pilgrim family.

Mary Ann Warner was 4 years old
when she arrived at Port Adelaide,
aboard the Westminster
with her family on 5th July 1848
Did any of your ancestors leave Australia and go “home”?
Only one that I am aware of but it was only for a visit to seemingly collect additional furniture and goods.


Now it's all about me

What's your State of Origin?
Victoria.

Do you still live there?
Yes, I have lived in 15 towns within the State of Victoria, which are
listed in another post. 

Mother and Daughter
Jane Warrick (nee Trethewy) and
Mary Ann Scott (nee Warrick).
Jane was 22 when when she arrived in
Port Hobson aboard the Appleton on
25 January 1857 with her husband
and two children under two.
Where was your favourite Aussie Holiday place as a child?
Nearly every school holidays, we would go to the "Beach House" at a tiny coastal town on the South East coast of Victoria.  My parents have lived there since they retired so I wont mention the name.  I still find it one of the most relaxing places to visit.

Any special place(s) that you like to holiday now?
My husband and I love to travel and see new places.  I have a list of places that I am "ticking off".  Our most recent holiday was to US.  It is my dream to spend 3 months in a campervan, travelling England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales, visiting all the places where my ancestors lived (but doing some touristy things too)..........................but that will need to wait until the kids have finished uni and/or I retire!

Share your favourite spot in Oz:
Now that is HARD as there are so many great places to see and things to do.  I keep going back to Cairns as my sisters live there.  I  don't think I could live there but I always enjoy it and there is always plenty to do and see.

Any great Aussie adventure you've had?
Jungle Surfing at Cape Tribulation and Climbing Sydney Harbour Bridge.  Hard to believe that I am scared of heights isn't it! 

What's on your Australian holiday bucket list?
Definitely Uluru (Ayers Rock), Kings Canyon and the Red Centre.

How do you celebrate Australia Day?
I don't tend to go to Australia Day events but instead use the time to do research and blog! 

 I thank my ancestors for making such sacrifices and having the courage to make such a long and difficult journey to Australia so that we can have a wonderful life now.
HAPPY AUSTRALIA DAY

Donald Scott was 23 when he traveled
alone aboard the Sappho, which arrived
in Geelong on 18 December 1852. 
Mary Ann (Polly) Warrick was my
youngest "boat person" as she was
only 2 years old when she arrived in
Port Hobson aboard the Appleton on
25 January 1857.





I would love to find out how and when
Richard Foy came to Australia.  I believe
that he arrived in QLD in the 1870s
but the records have been destroyed
 by flood so I cannot prove.










Eduard Geier was 22 when he
came to Australia.  His father
was the oldest of my 'boat people"
at age 63. They arrived in
Port Adelaide aboard the
Alfred on 6th December 1848.
Matthias Lange was 49 when
he arrived with family at
 Port Adelaide in 1846, aboard the
George Washington.


Friday, April 26, 2013

Wills & Probate Records

Wills & Probate records can be a great source of information for family history researchers.

We are very fortunate that Victorian Wills and Probate Records are available online at the Public Record Office Victoria.

My Great Grandmother told her family that her father's name was Richard Foy.  However, when we finally tracked down her birth record, there was no father listed.

Agnes Scott, Agnes Foy
Source: www.bdm.qld.gov.au

Therefore it was a source of relief to many family members to see Agnes listed as Richard Foy's daughter in his Probate Records.

Source: www.prov.vic.gov.au
The Probate Record also shows that Agnes and her sister May were using the Foy name (there is a mystery story here for another day) and they were living with their Grandfather, Samuel Drayton (and his address) at the time of Richard's death.

Now if only I could translate the Will for my 4 X Great Grandfather, Donald Scott, I may be able to obtain some more insights into the family.  This reminds me that you can search Wills on Scotlands People at no cost then pay a small fee to view the original record.

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Saturday, March 2, 2013

Family Recipe Friday - Great Grandmother Scott's Recipe Book

My Great Grandfather, William Adam Bisset Scott, was riding his bicycle home when he was hit by a car.  Initial reports indicate that he was taken to hospital "with slight concussion and severe leg lacerations" but he later died from "extensive injuries sustained".  

The Adelaide Advertiser
20 September 1943
Source Trove

So what does this have to do with recipes you may be wondering? 

From what I was told, Agnes operated a tea house after the death of her husband and she was a wonderful cook.

Norm Schnaars, Agnes Schnaars, Walter Scott,
Norm Schnnars, Agnes Schnaars (nee Scott) and Walter Scott
The Tea House, Waterfall Gully Road, Burnside, South Australia.

My cousin recently made me aware that he holds Agnes' recipe book.  The first couple of pages are pictured below.

The first page of Agnes Scott's recipe book.

It amused me to read in one of the recipes "heat over slow fire and stir".   

Unfortunately, I am not much of a cook (my husband does the cooking in this house) but it is my goal to prepare every recipe in the book in the coming weeks/months.    I hope to share them with you.

William Adam Bisset Scot, Allan Scott, Agnes Scott, Walter Scott, Donald Scott
William and Agnes Scott and Family - Approx 1916
Children - Allan, Donald (at back) , Walter (at front), Agnes

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Sunday, June 3, 2012

D is for DETERMINED and DEDICATED

DETERMINED to find more information.
DETERMINED to break down the brick walls.
DEDICATED to keep looking.

The brick wall surrounding the ancestors of  my great grandmother, Agnes Scott, remained high and solid for many many decades.  However with determination and dedication the bricks have begun to fall, the wall has weakened, falling in places but it still remains in place.  However, there are still more questions than answers!

Agnes Scott was very private and did not speak about her upbringing or parentage.  I think I now understand why.

Removing the first brick
Although the family had always lived in the Southern States, the marriage certificate of Agnes Foy to William Scott in 1906 showed that Agnes was born c1886 in Ipswich, Queensland and her parents were Richard Foy and Charlotte Drayton.

It was thought by some family members that Richard Foy was of Chinese origin and had worked on the goldfields.  The droopy eyes of aging ancestors and the name "Foy" seemed to support the story...........but how wrong it was.

I struggled to find a birth certificate for Agnes Foy but located the birth certificate for her sister May, which strangely was registered once with no father and secondly with Richard Foy listed as the father.  I assume that Richard was added later?  This soon lead me to Agnes' birth certificate with the mother listed as Charlotte Drayton but no father listed.

But why couldn't I find a marriage certificate?

The brick wall remained stable for many years
Nothing.  Every lead I followed went nowhere.

No immigration records could be located for either Richard Foy or Charlotte Drayton.  Still no marriage certificate.  I had searched all states.

I had found a Richard Foy who had departed Cooktown and arrived in Sydney in 1896 and also a Richard Foy who died at sea aboard the Kalgoorlie in 1898............but still no definite link to my Richard.

But I was DETERMINED.

This photo was unidentified for many years
but it is now believed to be Richard, Charlotte
and baby Agnes taken in 1886

  One section of the brick wall begins to crumble
The death certificate of Richard Foy revealed no new information, except he was a tanner.  However the Probate for Richard Foy was very interesting and confirmed that he was the same man who died aboard the Kalgoorlie and that he was also the father of Agnes and May.  It also mentioned that he had formerly lived in Ballarat.  I had confirmed a residence and date of death!

In my searching I also came across a Charlotte Sayers who married a Richard Foy in 1893 and also a Virginia Drayton who married a Richard Foy in 1896.  Both marriages occurred in Ballarat. Surely this was too coincidental not be a lead?  But I didn't want to get my hopes up as I had been disappointed many times in the past.  I ordered both certificates hoping that I was not wasting my money.

My family and dog got a fright and I am sure the neighbours heard too, as my shouts of triumph rang out boisterously.  The certificates showed that Charlotte and Virginia had the same parents.  They were sisters! Breakthrough.  The bricks came falling down................for a while anyway.





The story of Richard and Charlotte is beyond the scope of this blog but is one that I will tell another time.  It is tale of struggles, hardship and sadness but I like to think it is also romantic.

I found out alot of new information.  However, the mortar has again hardened and bricks have stopped falling but I am determined and dedicated in my search.  A termite can destroy a whole house, but it takes time.

Some bricks that need to be removed

  • How and When did Richard come to Australia? I believe it was after 1873.  Richard was born 1849 Galway, Ireland and died 1898 aboard the Kalgoorlie.  His parents were Patrick Foy and Mary Conroy.
  • Richards siblings seem to have disappeared after 1871. Cath b1852, Ireland - Margaret b1853 Warrington, Lancashire - John b1855 Warrington, Lancashire - Mary Ann b1858 Warrington, Lancashire - Agnes b1860 also in Warrington, Lancashire.
  • Although I know that Patrick Foy and Mary Conroy were both born in Ireland, I have been unable to find out anything about their parents.
  • Charlottes father was born about 1813 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US according to his death certificate. According to hospital records, he came to Australia aboard the Sophia in 1852, which sailed from Nantucket. His marriage, also in 1852, was registered under the name of Raiton. However I cannot locate any information about his origins or parents.
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